tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post7654147030991913313..comments2023-11-05T02:57:06.922-05:00Comments on The Vault of Horror: The "Cyber-Horror Elite" Present: THE HORROR CANONB-Solhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10717121313061173603noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-23906355833067720032009-08-11T08:28:04.407-04:002009-08-11T08:28:04.407-04:00There probably should have been a "ten years ...There probably should have been a "ten years old at least" rule as some of these choices will be embarassing in a few years (not bad movies, but "canon"? Sheesh.)DLRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-87070191468216761512009-08-10T23:54:53.863-04:002009-08-10T23:54:53.863-04:00A pleasure to be able to include you this time, Ra...A pleasure to be able to include you this time, Ray!B-Solhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10717121313061173603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-3051139857064461312009-08-10T23:52:48.171-04:002009-08-10T23:52:48.171-04:00I would just like to thank B-Sol for the honor of ...I would just like to thank B-Sol for the honor of contributing to this list.RayRayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08718037136482754673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-82980876633482620662009-08-10T22:05:14.908-04:002009-08-10T22:05:14.908-04:00I've seen 28 of the 35! And I'm damn proud...I've seen 28 of the 35! And I'm damn proud of that.the jaded viewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06187249754406306760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-59672494208639928222009-08-10T18:46:39.522-04:002009-08-10T18:46:39.522-04:00So my beloved Hostel never made it - can't say...So my beloved Hostel never made it - can't say I'm too surprised though. And I'm glad to see that the lack of 90's movies replicates my lack of 90's movie reviews over in the Igloo...The Igloo Keeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17357749925165000647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-14459579870111783892009-08-10T18:43:29.076-04:002009-08-10T18:43:29.076-04:00B-Sol,
No complaints, great list. All must seesB-Sol,<br /><br />No complaints, great list. All must seesPax Romanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00951019083510283683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-25262269246753347092009-08-10T18:29:00.754-04:002009-08-10T18:29:00.754-04:00Full disclosure, this is the note I emailed with m...Full disclosure, this is the note I emailed with my list. I had Orphan at #9: <br /><br />"The logic behind this list is getting them hooked with the best of the most recent, starting with an effective film based on a fear<br />everyone can relate to (The Strangers,) gradually exposing them to different types of<br />horror designed for modern audiences so they can acquire a taste, and then let them work their way back through the entire genre hopefully saving the very best for last."Wesley Cavinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03135394865410877812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-51436125755784483162009-08-10T17:44:56.956-04:002009-08-10T17:44:56.956-04:00Ahem, let the record show that I had The Curse of ...Ahem, let the record show that I had The Curse of Frankenstein on MY top 10. Just sayin.B-Solhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10717121313061173603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-28569439814730497622009-08-10T16:55:09.780-04:002009-08-10T16:55:09.780-04:00No Hammer,Amicus or even a single British horror f...No Hammer,Amicus or even a single British horror film in the top 35?<br />Tsk TskDrakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05976371904886616699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-56627327362503169692009-08-10T16:30:01.289-04:002009-08-10T16:30:01.289-04:00I can see that arguement In my humble opinion, I d...I can see that arguement In my humble opinion, I do think that Exorcist is just as heavy a film as Martyrs is. People were yacking in the aisles when it came out. Not too mention the topics of the film were completely unsettling (especially to a mainstream audience which had never seen anything like it on the big screen). Martyrs struck me in a similar fashion in its heavy handed way of questioning religion. And that is why I would recommend it as a good starting point. To me, The Exorcist and Martyrs are great bookends in that one espouses the existence of the devil and the other god. Brilliant stuff!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-78651805752630787732009-08-10T15:51:40.934-04:002009-08-10T15:51:40.934-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Karl Hungushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402005407998764370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-5009400585944677892009-08-10T15:51:39.448-04:002009-08-10T15:51:39.448-04:00@ Planet of Terror
Martyrs not being included on ...@ Planet of Terror<br /><br />Martyrs not being included on this list I can understand. As B-sol posed the question, what would you tell someone who asked you where to start, what would be a good introduction to horror. Films like The Shining or The Exorcist are fantastic starting points, but Martyrs would probably be far too heavy going.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I loved the film, I thought it was the most powerful film experiences I've had since Let The Right One In. It just left me staggered. But it's not something I'd use as a starting point.<br /><br />@ B-Sol<br /><br />Ok, must've forgot about that one. How about something different? Instead of tallying top tens, ask the Cyber-Horror elite to recommend one obscure horror film each, and write a paragraph about it. Try get more left of field, underground films out there. I'd say everyone could bring something unique to the table.Karl Hungushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402005407998764370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-1308985484772744542009-08-10T14:07:14.721-04:002009-08-10T14:07:14.721-04:00The absence of AWIL, Scream and Blair Witch was su...The absence of AWIL, Scream and Blair Witch was surprising to me, as well, as was the inclusion of Orphan. I will say that I personally prefer the remake of The Ring to the original.<br /><br />As for foreign horror films, we've already done that list, check it out <a href="http://thevaultofhorror.blogspot.com/2009/02/return-of-cyber-horror-elite-presenting.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. The plan for the next list will most likely be horror literature...B-Solhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10717121313061173603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-3714780982554648582009-08-10T13:39:47.164-04:002009-08-10T13:39:47.164-04:00Very nice list, and it seems like I have to fiddle...Very nice list, and it seems like I have to fiddle with my queue at Netflix... Now, how about one for books?Dorukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06059987846825987823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-15388029579549442072009-08-10T13:03:45.330-04:002009-08-10T13:03:45.330-04:00@matt and seth:
I think the absence of Blair Witc...@matt and seth: <br />I think the absence of Blair Witch Project can be justified by the presence of Cannibal Holocaust. There is nothing intrinsically interesting about Blair Witch except that it was mainstream's first exposure to vérité-style horror. Holocaust covers this formula quite well already, and Blair Witch doesn't bring much else to the table.<br /><br /><br />I would like to have seen Braindead/Dead Alive on this list, but I couldn't find a movie that it should replace. Then again, the nineties aren't represented at all....Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05318758609892804076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-48660116457447605572009-08-10T13:02:24.334-04:002009-08-10T13:02:24.334-04:00I applaud my horror cohorts who contributed (and m...I applaud my horror cohorts who contributed (and many thanks again to B-Sol for allowing us to also do so) for including more modern films. While Orphan was great as was the Ring remake (agreed the original is still better and much more well executed), I'm puzzled by the exclusion of Martyrs and Inside. Both have had a more lasting impact on me and in my guestimation, will in future years have a more lasting impact on the genre itself. As suggested, maybe we should do a list of best foreign horror? <br /><br />And Cannibal Holocaust? Holy jesus, I would only show that to someone who I would NOT want to be a true fan or neophyte of the genre. You have to have the right mindset (and lack of stomach contents) to watch that film. Its NOT something you go back to time and time again. Really, WTF is wrong with some of you? <br /><br />Much Love,<br /><br />Cortez the KillerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-28969512257461940192009-08-10T12:43:56.807-04:002009-08-10T12:43:56.807-04:00I know that every list will have some choices that...I know that every list will have some choices that will be debated, but how Orpah made it in the list of these films is unbelievable. If ti was to have a killer-kid entry, there are much, much better (Who Can Kill A Child?). <br /><br />But how Orphan got on this list over a slew of other classics (like AWiL as another poster stated) sullies up what is otherwise a decent list of horror films.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-75543446616459718862009-08-10T08:27:22.940-04:002009-08-10T08:27:22.940-04:00I think this is a really diverse list of some clas...I think this is a really diverse list of some classic films. I would have liked to have seen Friday the 13th on the list, possibly Re Animator and/or Basket Case as well. I think Gordon and Hennenlotter are deserving. Pretty cool though.Drew Golburghhttp://www.darkersideoffilm.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-21924059292089188482009-08-10T08:10:02.936-04:002009-08-10T08:10:02.936-04:00I concur that Ringu should have made it up there i...I concur that Ringu should have made it up there instead of the re-make, but people know my feelings about Asian cinema western remakes vom! I has quite a few foreign language horror in my list including Wicked City an anime. Alas we must follow the formula in the interest of equality!Ms Harkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14901608695669018991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-85996085086235978312009-08-10T08:03:31.357-04:002009-08-10T08:03:31.357-04:00@Karl, I was going to suggest the same thing.
I h...@Karl, I was going to suggest the same thing.<br /><br />I had wanted to contribute but ran out of time, but my list was going to be of all foreign horror, just to shake it up.<br /><br />And there's no way Tale of Two Sisters is out of place, that movie is damned awesome.gordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955994070918697381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-19140592703800641672009-08-10T07:49:11.678-04:002009-08-10T07:49:11.678-04:00I'd agree with Seth there about Ringu. Not onl...I'd agree with Seth there about Ringu. Not only was it a staggeringly influential film, it was also a far better film than the remake. So much more subtle, slow burning and brooding than Verbinski's brash, flashy and effects laden version. I guess I always find it depressing when a remake overshadows the original, and I think that's part of the reason I find issue with remakes in general.<br /><br />However, it is interesting to see how this list has turned out, having contributed to it. The inclusion of A Tale of Two Sisters is excellent, which hopefully shows that it's a film not in danger of being overshadowed by an inferior remake.<br /><br />It is interesting to note the recent films in the list though. I'd say Horror has seen a good few exceptional films lately, and that's definitely an influence (I know I couldn't help but include Let The Right One In and Pan's Labyrinth in my contribution). Considering Drag me to Hell, we've seen an absolutely exceptional horror film that was a big success in the summer months, a time we'd usually never see horror.<br /><br />I know myself that films like the above, along with others like [Rec] and Martyrs have been some of the best horrors I had seen in years, so I'd certainly think things are looking up for fans of the genre.<br /><br />I can't help but wonder, what would the Cyber-Horror Elite think the best foreign language horror films are? Perhaps a suggestion for the next list?Karl Hungushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402005407998764370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-80497244590604679162009-08-10T06:43:47.997-04:002009-08-10T06:43:47.997-04:00Nice to see that A Tale Of Two Sisters finally gai...Nice to see that A Tale Of Two Sisters finally gains some recognition. But The Orphan? Now I haven't seen it, but I'm pretty sure there must be a few other movies that are more Must-see than that one? Also how House On Haunted Hill can be above The Haunting is beyond me, one is superior to the other and it aint the Price version. Completely baffled by the absence of Scream and The Balir Witch Project too, regardless of what you think of them they were still the two biggest horror movies of the 90s. And as usual I would rather have seen the original Ringu rather than the remake, in fact on this list it would have been even more appropriate since Ringu, being the original, is the most influential of the two, almost singlehandedly starting the asian horror wave. But overall I like the list, only four of them that i haven't seen.Seth Canesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-49045869981565922862009-08-10T05:23:38.845-04:002009-08-10T05:23:38.845-04:00I am delighted 'A Tale of Two Sisters' mad...I am delighted 'A Tale of Two Sisters' made the list! Sometimes the obscure gives you the pinch on the arse you most desire! Or the hand that grabs your ankle from under the stairs, whatever floats your boat... Also ecstatic to see that a modern classic in my opinion LTROI made a good showing as well. Bravo!<br /><br />www.musingcontinuum.comMs Harkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14901608695669018991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-75219361317949220812009-08-10T04:26:36.298-04:002009-08-10T04:26:36.298-04:00I am reasonably geeky. I haven't seen the newe...I am reasonably geeky. I haven't seen the newer ones (haven't been to a movie in a theatre in more than 2 years) and that Italian cannibal one--sheesh! Yes, my short term memory really is that bad right now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05779107279394475454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8470604276410220159.post-10889746852514618952009-08-10T04:02:06.124-04:002009-08-10T04:02:06.124-04:00I think the list is mostly spot on, though it does...I think the list is mostly spot on, though it does seem like Orphan and A Tale of Two Sister are a little out of place, considering American Werewolf in London is not present. And both Scream and Blair witch are strangely absent….probably two of the most important horror movies of there time. It also would have been nice to see Candyman on the list over Saw.<br /><br />If Saw can make it on this list, then why not a Friday the 13 film, right? What franchise made a bigger impact? It’s not as if either film has mad any impact with quality, at least the Friday films changed the game and influenced/created the standard for Slasher films in the 80’s. So there could be a few film swaps in my opinion.<br /><br />Six of my top ten essentials are in the top ten totals, so I am happy with the results. There were so many films that could have easily made it, and a lot of those are on this list. I like seeing The War of the Worlds, Zombie 2, and Cannibal Holocaust on here. I wouldn't have expected those, but they certainly are essentials, and are films that have left an impact, as is the case with Holocaust. <br /><br />I look forward to what everyone else has to say about how the list turned out, and I am glad to have been a part in the decision-making process.Matt-suzakahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16215962688591291944noreply@blogger.com